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I think it's up to the individual to decide how much sugar he or she wants to consume. Just because I can order 32 ounces of soda doesn't mean I'm going to jump on the opportunity. The same goes for those who want to consume that 32-ounce sugary drink. If they want it, they'll find a way to get it, whether it means buying two or three smaller drinks or sneaking a big soda into a movie theater. If you care about what you put in your body, this ban won't affect you. And if you don't care about what you put in your body, this ban won't affect you. It's a waste of time in my opinion.
A public hearing is underway on Mayor Bloomberg's proposal to limit the size of sugary drinks to 16 ounces or less at restaurants, delis and concession stands at movie theaters, stadiums and arenas. The Board of Health, whose members are appointed by the Mayor, is expected to approve the plan September 13.
Opponents are testifying that the government has no right to regulate how much people drink or eat. But supporters welcome the plan as a way to fight the obesity epidemic. Nearly 60% of New York City adults are overweight or obese, and one in eight has Type 2 diabetes. What do you say?
If you had five minutes to testify for or against this ban, what would you say? Do you feel the Board of Health will listen to public opinion before making a decision? If the ban is approved, and you want more than 16 ounces of soda, will you buy two drinks instead?
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I an writing regarding Bloomberg's obsession with control. The mayor would love to be a dictator! My issue with his ban on sugary drinks is that it is not anyone's place to say what I can or cannot buy. Let's have food stamps stop paying for junk food. People can buy cake, cookies, chips, soda, Red Bull and all other unhealthy foods with food stamps! If the government want to assist in a more healthy community then how about stopping the use of tax money to pay for food that has no nutritional value. If one works and can pay for junk food, then they should be allowed to buy what they wish. However when a family relies on food stamps, they should be buying food that us nutritious! That might be a better way to help citizens make better choices. Especially when tax dollars are paying for it.
The proposed beverage size limitation is a violation of individual rights and the rights of store owners. Buyer's freedom of action is suppressed and interfered with, plus they're forced to pay more for the same amount.
Seller's freedom is similarly suppressed and in addition their property rights are violated. They can only use government approved cups.
This is just one more step down the road to outright fascism in America. We are a long way down it already and heading for the entrance to the express lane.
Fascism is a system of government under which property is ostensibly privately owned, but the use of which is regulated by the government.
What we imbibe, inhale, ingest or shoot up or in what quantity is none of the government's business.
Bloomberg and et. al. should butt out!
Port Richmond, SI
This is just plain wrong.
Wrong I tell you.
Abuse of power I say.
First of all, the places put ice the cups so you don't get the full ounces anyway.
There isn't that much soda in a large cup.
People split a soda, fast food is not cheap.
No one should have to defend this anyway, its just wrong to mandate how much a person
can buy. This will make it more expensive for the consumer.
The people benefitting from this would be the fast food places and the people selling cups.
What is The Mayor going to decide for us next ?
This comes across as dictatorship.
This is what we get for allowing someone to cheat their way in.
Esmerelda, East Village, NYC
SOMEONE HAS TO BE MAKING MONEY ON THIS SODA THING. IF YOU WERE TO OWN LOTS OF BEVERAGE SHARES, IT COULD GO UP.
HOT DOGS GET A REPRIEVE? BAN POVERTY INSTEAD.
JOE, BAY TERRACE
The first thing I would like to say is that he needs to get the hell out of this stolen office he bought and paid for.
How many panels does he own and how much are the total payrolls of the all of these panels from every agency including the deputy mayors that we are paying for with out tax money. He brags that he doesn't take a paycheck but he sure as hell has no problem being a big sport at our expense. If you add up all of these payrolls together we would have more than enough money to work with.
PLEASE WE DON'T NEED ANYONE SPEAKING TO US TONIGHT FOR AND AGAINST THIS RIDICULOUS OBSESSION OF THIS DICTATOR.
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT IS COMING DOWN THE PIKE AS THE NEXT AGENDA.
THEY SERIOUSLY NEED TO CLEAN HOUSE FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.
JUST LOOK AT THE PIT BULLS WAITING IN THE WINGS TO TAKE OVER THIS CITY.
This sugar ban makes no sense, and it will do nothing to end obesity, which would best handled through health educational efforts at schools throughout the city.
Felix Bay Ridge
What does this tell you about putting the wealthy in power, that is what everyone should be thinking about. Mayor Bloomberg or his council or the Department of Health DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO REGULATE COMMERCE, That is outside their authority, but I guess they can do anything they want if it is expected that the NYC Dept of Health will approve it? If we already know the outcome of the hearing why are they having a hearing I wonder? Well get ready beverage companies, time to call you lawyers and this time make sure they ask for legal fees and appeal if they are not awarded!
I’m at a loss to understand how penalizing the sellers of soft drinks for selling large size surgery drinks is going to stop obesity. As was pointed out to me by a friend who is diabetic and doesn’t even drink soft drinks, “What’s the stop anyone from buying two sodas?” Wouldn’t this be a pyrrhic victory at best for Mayor Bloomberg, and has he not learned the lessons of Prohibition? Wouldn’t education be a better course of action? What is he going to ban next – pasta, cheesecake, pizza?
Personally, I only drink diet sodas and am considered underweight, but I believe in free will. When I want health advice, I take it from my doctor, not a politician. My suggestion to the soda industry, if this idiotic ban is enacted, would be to offer two 16 ounce sodas for the price of a 32 ounce soda and call it The Bloomberg Special.
The law should not be pass right away. A sugar habit is like any addictive problem. Adults and children should understand the long term results of abusing too much sugar/food/drinks.The stores and manufactures can slowly stop the sell of the oversize product. The Mayor introduced the snapples and other addictive drinks inside the school. Now he is concerned? Let us continue to educate this issue in schools , commercials, and at health clinics. The mayor do not remember the day he did not cancel school, due to a snow storm. It was the day before Valentines day and he did not want anyone to lose out on business.
Peggy - Harlem
The government has no right to regulate how much we drink. People WILL drink as much as they want anyway. BAN cigarettes on NYC streets for a healthier city!
People will have to buy more than one drink if they want more and it will be expensive. Also, you will be unable to share a large drink with your family. Not everyone has Bloomberg's money!
Debbie from Flushing
I totally disagree with Mayor Bloomberg's proposed ban on large sugary beverages. What's to stop me or anyone else for that matter from buying 2 or more 16 oz sodas??
I am so sick of this Napoleonic little twerp and the sycophantic minions whom he has bought and paid for to agree with him. He is so unAmerican and undemocratic. He treats us like serfs and peasants whilst enriching his RE and Wall Street buddies and grinding the working class and poor under his heel. I absolutely totally hate him and everybody who he has corrupted.
I personally don't think this issue will help . I'm sure instead of one large drink people can order or buy 2-3 sodas so it won't do anything.
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Is drinking a 32oz Diet Beverage ok?
I think just gradually reducing the sugar in these sugary drinks and not labeling them "diet or sugarfee" will help with obesity.
Making these drinks less sweet will make them less desirable.
Im becoming annoyed by government overstepping their bounds. Education would do 100 times what this ban would. Also I feel this tactic is disingenuous theres clearly another motive at play here.
Ryan from ft greene bklyn
Congratulations to Mayor Bloomberg he has just created another Panel for Educational Policy with the Board of Health that holds farce hearings. ALL OF HIS APPOINTEES -- why do they even hold these hearings when the decision has already been made prior to? What a slap in the face to the public and the officials that were there at that hearing and spoke against this Soda Ban. Yes, this will affect small businesses -- the fact that Mayor Bloomberg can say that it will not with a straight face is mind-boggling. And these are the same small businesses that Mayor Bloomberg comes out to rally for every time tax increases are discussed for incomes over $500,000. Just what small businesses need right now in this economy. At the same time, he is taking away the rights of the people by deciding for us what and how much we should consume of sugary drinks. This is how anger begins -- repression and dictatorship. He is using this anti-obesity fad and his ongoing publicity about gun control as a legacy for himself so that he does not go down as a total failure like he has in education. Everything he does is for a purpose and by no means does he do this out of the concern for all. He is all about Power, Control, Ego and Money and he takes no prisoners. TOTAL POWER CORRUPTS.
I don't think this will help people they will still buy 2-3 sodas and what people drink or how much I don't think it's his concern . I personally don't drink soda at all . But I don't think he should pass this law.
Irene from Astoria
The mayor should worry about affordable housing and our schools instead of monitoring our caloric intake.
David in Jackson Heights
2 thumbs up to our Mayor!!!
It will drive down soda consumed by obese people...wake up NY
The soda limit is a great idea and other cities should follow suit. Opponents on the ban argue that buying more than 1 soda is expensive, but taxpayers will end up paying for healthcare for the obese people down the line. Bravo mayor Bloomberg!
Upper east side
In theory the ban on large sugary drinks would help with the obesity epidemic. However, it is ridiculous to think that it is possible to enforce such a policy. We would have to introduce a total ban on drinks containing sugar to make this work. What keeps an establishment from offering free refills? What keeps a patron from ordering 2 or 3 drinks,( if they can afford it)?
The ban on large sugary drinks feels like an empty gesture on the war on obesity.
Feels like the war on marijuana. It does not effect the person who is on a path of destruction. It is an empty gesture that does not open the eyes of someone who has a problem, just steers them in a more destructive path.
People make emotional decisions, banning the size of a drink does not make it unattractive, rather makes you find an alternate path to satisfaction.
People need support and education that does not feel shameful. This feels like a shameful inducing gesture that does not address the larger issue.
Hello John. Like many, I get it about the health connection (and personally avoid drinking a lot of soda). But there is a key point Karen Ansel, our so called mayor and every other supporter can't grasp. We ALL have our vices. After a bad day I may want to have a tub of ice cream or a large soda. You cannot regulate that. If we selected everyone's vices and regulated them we'd live in a nutrition police state.
Additionally, I hope they're aware of the increase in plastic and other non-biodegradable materials due to people buying two or more drinks at each sitting.
First off, they really need to stop wasting time and money on these hearings. They have already decided what they are going to do and the whole dog and pony show is just an insult at this point. As for the Mayor's concern over people's health due to obesity, how many people has he caused to lose their health insurance? I personally know of 2000+ other people, including myself that he decided were too expensive to keep alive. People who are walking around without health care, obese or not, are at risk of dying from the flu. A big cup full of mostly ice is just a distraction from the 50 other things he has done to the ruin this city in his reign. He doesn't care about anyone and this is just another one of his windmills to attack trying to justify the ill-gotten third term he bought his way into. How much longer do we have to look at this guy?
I think it is ridiculous to assume that a sugary drink is the tipping point for obesity!
What about people that are not obese that enjoy a large soda? The mayor in his infinite wisdom feels he has the right to control what we do with our bodies? And if the real issue is obesity why is there no ban on a triple cheese burger that is 1400 calories????? Or a breakfast sandwich that is 900 calories??? This is simply about control just like the smoking ban was. Again if he is concerned about peoples health why not ban the smoke stacks that pollute our air or the buses and trucks that spew carbon monoxide into the air which NYC has no shortage on?
Beatrice from Carroll Gardens Brooklyn
First of all it should be up to the consumer to choose what they consume. Secondly, the obese person is not obese because of the large soda, they're over weight because of the fast food they're eating with it.
College Point, Queens
To the caller that says Mr. Bloomberg is the best mayor I beg to differ. I say one of our worst mayor and a dictator is how I would rate him. He is very hypocritical, for example only a few years ago he told the mta that they could not strike because of the Taylor Law but today he says police all over the nation should go on strike or say they will until they fell better protected because of gun control. Give me a break. He calls teachers in failing schools incompetent and want to take their jobs but installed an incompetent chancellor of schools. Why would I trust him. This is America we have always been free if he wants to dictate a diet then go live in the former soviet union.
It's too bad there's so much PROFIT in soda, otherwise McDonalds, Burger King, etc might just do what the lady suggested and offer water free. The only profit in WATER is when it's BOTTLED. Offering cups of it FREE to customers??? Not for fast food chains!!!
As the spokesperson for New Yorkers for Beverage Choices, the coalition of more than 92,000 New Yorkers and almost 1500 New York businesses, the answer to your question about whether the Board of Health is interested in listening to New Yorkers is clearly no. If they truly wanted to hear New Yorkers, the one hearing would not have been in the middle of the day - lunch hour for our small businesses - in a location inconvenient to much of the City. The fact is this ban not only restricts choice but is completely arbitrary. For all the focus on big gulps, you will still be able to drink them because 7-eleven is not included in the ban. But, your local pizzeria where you share a drink with your family is being targeted.
The whole thing makes no sense and there is no evidence that a ban will have any impact. Even the dietician who spoke first admitted as much. This ban is a distraction from confronting obesity in a comprehensive manner and tackling a major health issue for New Yorkers.
New Yorkers for Beverage Choices
I think Mayor Bloomberg has double standards. If he was truly worried then he would encourage people not to buy soda, and not ban it. Also, if he was worried, he wouldn't declare a day as national donut day.
You and your guest speaker bring up the most important point of education regarding nutrition and weight management which needs to be emphasized especially in the schools. I would like to know where the New York State Health Commissioner stands on this issue. Maybe the initiative of five-cent soda tax which was introduced and promoted by the late Dr. Richard Daines who was the former NY State Health Commissioner should be revisited. The beverage lobby had many advertisements and a dedicated web site against this idea as well.
At least with this idea these proposed tax collections were intended to be used for the payment of the accompanying health care costs which are associated with obesity. Much like the taxes imposed for tobacco products, this would have been a direct correlation to consumers who decide to drink these sugary drinks.
I think this proposal is a crock -- just the beginning, as many of you are asking: what's next??
I'd argue that Bloomberg should focus on beef and dairy products where the cows are fed a corn diet. Talk about sugar - it's in all downstream products from milk to cheese to yogurt (all alleged healthy foods). Is this included in the label? No. And to add insult to injury, some of these foods can be qualified as organic. Just slightly misleading? At least conduct a study of what's really behind the muffin top....all causes.
Education, fine, but bans? Come on -- it won't stop from there. How about taxing people who don't exercise?
Ban cigarettes and alcohol and focus on banning of guns and not what we eat or drink . Freedom of choice
this is ridiculous. are we going to regulate caffeine, ice cream and whatever the mayor feels is not good for you. my daughter has to drink a double expresso for days to keep up with all her school work as a junior in school. how about having a discussion about allowed to buy 6000 rounds of ammunition.
candy park slope
The overwhelming majority of people always have been, and always will be, non-thinking idiots, for proof, just watch the news every day. The only thing they understand about anything is where their wallet or purse is, so hit ’em where it hurts. The easiest way to solve the sugary drink problem is to put a “sweet” tax on it, i.e., have a progressive tax on the amount of sugar in any drink, so the drinks with the most sugar will cost the most—regardless of the size of the container. It worked with cigarettes: the higher the cost, the more people that quit smoking, it’ll work with sugar too. By the way, there’s still too many smokers left, so we need a $5 per pack tax on that too.
Considering the mayor supersized his mayoral-ship, who the hell is he to tell me how much to drink. It's a dangerous thing when the government tells you what's good for you and what isn't.
Jessica, Kew Gardens
What makes you think you'll still be able to get large diet sodas? Stores and restaurants are unlikely to stock multiple cup or bottle sizes.
I can't wait until Bloomberg's illegal third term is over so we can reverse his ridiculous soda ban, bike lanes, pedestrian plazas, and dictatorial can't-be-wrong attitude.
As a physician, I support banning extremely large sugary drinks in NYC. Complications of obesity carry significant morbidity and increased mortality; it a public health nightmare. NYC has been a leader and demonstrated success with other public health interventions such as the cigarette tax and the trans fatty-acid ban. I have no doubt this ban will be as successful in preventing thousands obesity related deaths and save millions of tax payer dollars in healthcare spending. Besides, if someone REALLY wants 32oz of soda they can purchase 2 beverages.
Ben V. MD
The other day I took the number 7 train and I tried to sit down. There were several people occupying 2 or 3 seats They were obese. I asked one to please move and he didn't blink.
So I let myself fall down I'm the small space left and...he complained saying don't push me ! I answered don't occupy 3 places please ! And I stayed.
I called in on this subject earlier. I am all for the ban, I applaud Mayor Bloomberg. Thank You for being concerned for the city I live in. He is a True Leader.
Why doesn't the Mayor make his daughter stop riding horses, a sport he pays for? She has broken her neck, broken her back, that doesn't sound too healthy, does it?
The mayor is so full of himself; how about putting physical education back in our schools? All he cares about are reading and math scores...no music, art, gym, after-school ACTIVITIES. Our kids are allowed to be totally sedentary. I'm 65 yrs. old , drank cherry cokes, ate potato chips etc. through-out my childhood, but almost never stopped moving! No health problems! Bloomberg and all the other wealthy people in his administration also don't understand the cost factor involved.
Some families really need to purchase drinks based on cost.
Kathy, West Brighton
No one is arguing that excessive soda consumption is not ideal. The issue is that this is not why we created a city government. Here are some things to think about.
I am a slender, fit, active woman. Sometimes I like to drink soda. If I go to a movie, my husband and I split a big soda, because it's cheaper. Now I have to spend more money?
Diet soda is far worse for your health than regular soda.
You cannot look at a person and call them a "fat animal", Jeff from Midtown, and know what their story is or why they are heavy. I can guarantee you though, that it is not merely excessive soda.
And finally, it's all fine and dandy to ban someone else's vices and foibles, but wait until they come for yours!
In lieu of the billions spent on providing NYC with the best possible drinking water, I think we should be concentrating on BANNING the huge trucks that clog our streets bringing in bottled water – Bottled WATER is what should have a hefty TAX on it. WHY? Because NYC is paying already to have the BEST water we can.
Our health is jeopardized because THIS Mayor allows semi-tractor trailers to haul drinking water into the City WHILE we have tunnels, reservoirs and NEW tunnels being
If we’re being TAXED and taxed again and taxed again for water, then we should be taxing water companies for making money on the water they bring in to our City
by the truckload.
This ban on soda is wrong, we need to ban bottled water – the bottles litter our planet, they should be encouraging ALL NY’ers to drink TAP water.
I think the mayor has no business being my mother. I had a mother, when I was a kid and she did a very good job, considering what she had to work with. As an adult I can and should be able to make my own choices. I have the right to buy as much soda as I want.
When I buy a 20oz soda, which is very rarely, it lasts 4 days, provided my wife doesn't mooch off it. I know how to control myself. If you are obese, it is not just because of the soda, it is a combination of the soda and everything else that you are eating that you should not be eating.
This is not going to work, it is a waste of our money and time.
I do agree with the ban on sodas. However, I believe that you need to go directly to the major corporations that produce soda, fast food, alcohol, and pass laws to regulate and oversee how these pRoducts are advertised and made. Most importantly the mayor should make changes to the education system and educate students. Obesity is out of control and the mayor dont know how to stop the epidemic.
Salvatore from Bay Ridge
The mayor has said that banning large, sugary drinks will force people to be more thoughtful in their eating habits. Well, how about limiting the amount of cigarette packs that can be bought at one time, or limiting the quantity of burgers or french fries that can be bought at one time at the fast food chains, or ...........duh......
Gentlemen: There has been PLENTY of education out there for many years about the sugar and soft drink factor. People generally are loathe to change habits. They cannot police themselves so someone has to do it for them. A recent caller was right -- it's all about the money!
This ban makes no sense. I refuse to let a mayor that I didn't vote for tell me what I can drink. I don't drink a lot of soda but it's still my choice to do so. This mayor is doing whatever he wants to do because the people let him change the term limit and voted him back in. They created a Monster.
I'm against the ban of supersized drinks mainly because our mayor is once again playing "king" and infringing on our individual rights. Who is he to tell me or anyone
else what to consume? With all the things WRONG in this city I feel this issue is just
a ploy to make him look like he is concerned with our health!
Im against major Bloomberg in this and other topics and hope to make a different by voicing out my opinion
I feel that the mayor/dept of health shouldn't interfear for what we intake. We work to hard for our money just to have some idiot stop us from consuming what we like. Is the mayor going to pay for our hospital/burial bills? NO right so why are they worrying so much. All this crab about soda banning is non-sense, how many doctors out there they always say don't smoke/drink but yet they smoke/drink and we see them in these fast food restaurant. Even nutritionist I seen them obese and in fast food restaurant. The mayor should be banning on those halal food vendors carts in the streets, that's it's collecting a lot of bacteria etc. I will be buying (2) 16oz sodas :)
Naomi from harlem
I go to a movie about once a month, and live 2 miles from the Whitestone Cinemas in Queens. So, what I will do if the ban goes into place is drive to the Roosevelt Field Cinemas, watch my movie there, get my large soda and popcorn there, then do all of my clothes shopping at Roosevelt Field, get gas in Nassau County instead of in Queens, and dine in Nassau instead of in Queens on that particular day. Once again, out imbecilic NYC politicians at work.
How many times will the dictator overstep his bounds? If God gave us free will to do as we will, good or bad...then who is the Mayor to interfere with our free will? It's disgusting that this hypocrite can interfere and limit our choices. And the fact of the matter is, if this succeeds...what's next? There are more issues in this city that needs his concern than worrying about what we drink. This smacks of a totalarian state...My God...I ask what will be next with this man? He already in my opinion unlawfully gained a 3rd term..the police are like the gestapo with their stop and frisk methods. Now this, which if it passes and it probably will. As there was no real intention to listen to the voices of NYers at all. It will not prevent you from buying another drink. I suppose he will go after alcohol next and bring the prohibition back. I'm incensed at him and his stooges who feel they have the right to tamper with our free will!
Christina, Queens, NY
Hello my name is Sam from Harlem From manheetten , 1 Asfor the Mayor trying to pass any laws regarding people and their weight he should first stop allowing the farm animal to be giving harmone t5o make the grow faster never mind a soda that has no added harmone which causes obesity , diabetes , cancer all those things there first off second the mayor which as the people that elected him into mayor living where rent for a no good apartment is 900 hundred a month and the mininum wage is 7.25 an horu and this is who that stupid guy is the best new yorjk has ever seen ahhh, you people really need to wake up
I think this law should not be passed. We do need to be babysitted on what we eat and drink. This is afree country.
John from staten island
mayor Bloomberg, you might be right about this one. Definitely not about parking tickets. Here’s the deal you need to ban a lot more than 16oz bottles of soda, e.g. Tolls. The roads should be included in taxes. Also, you should ban businesses that sell gas more expensive when you use a credit card. Come on, this is about general public, its not always about the businesses.
It wouldnt be a full ban, you can buy lower oz. Sodas to crave your taste. Besides we are getting fat and this would help.
The Way the mayor and everyone that agrees with him to ban sugary drinks larger than 16 ounces is just violating the way we want to drink. The ban won’t do anything and breaching our freedom to the fullest extent is wrong.
Men take up to much room on the trains, not just heavy weight people.Lets not stereotype.
Putting it in a more direct way,in the past young people were tough, strong, healthy and well dressed. Nowadays people don't care anymore, they eat until they look monstrous, dress poorly, don't care about how they look and they are even proud about their laziness!
Historically, there were some fat people, in small number, and the big majority were a decent size by today's standards. What I see in New York is mostly extremes: on the one side I see exercising, image conscious people, and on the other side I see very sedentary obese deformed people. Instead of being perceived as shameful however, there is advocacy for understanding and not hurting their feelings...None of the old people I see on the street are obese!
And the saddest part: they eat bad food. Americans are brainwashed that natural food like eggs, raw milk and animal fat are BADDD and they instead overeat sugar which is the main culpit for many diseases while doctors have recently come out and said our body needs natural sources of fats and that carbohydrates and sugars are the real evil, not fat. Refined sugar was not in people's diet until a few hundred years ago, before they used to use natural honey.
One of the callers stated that there are only a few deaths caused by obesity. That's right: the underlying cause of death is the complications caused by obesity, taxing the body's organs with too much sugar and body fat.
I wish people were so outraged by the levels of petro-chemical pesticides and the need for artificial genetically modified seeds to withstand the pesticides that change our DNA and known to cause birth defects, and animal growth hormones and the super diseases they cause in cattle, treated by antibiotics that end up effecting our health and cause premature puberty in children.
I don't care that the measure is proposed by this particular mayor, I think he could do much more on this topic. But the occasion is a great oportunity for people to realize how far they came in this unhealthy trend over the past few decades, taking natural fat out of their diets and substituting with poisonous sugars and refined starches that turn into sugar, just to feel full in the absence of fats to satiate them. And I know many don't have the will, and that is where the authorities have to step in and not make these harmful products available in large quantities.