Friday, August 01, 2014

Follow us:
Follow @NY1 on Twitter Subscribe to this news feed 

News

The Call Blog: Mayor Bloomberg Calls NYPD Reform Laws "Election Year Politicking"

  • Text size: + -

Have something to tell us at The Call? Drop us a line at thecall@ny1.com and we'll post it to our blog.



It's been a bad few weeks for Mayor Bloomberg. First, a judge overturned his sugary drink ban. Then, standardized test scores were abysmal. Days later, a federal judge ruled the way the NYPD conducts street stops was unconstitutional. And yesterday, the City Council voted down his veto of the Community Safety Act. I wonder what will happen next week?



Mayor Bloomberg criticized City Council lawmakers today for lacking "common sense in terms of what's right for the City." On his weekly radio show, Bloomberg described yesterday's override vote of his veto of the Community Safety Act as "election year politicking."

Yesterday, the Council voted to create an Inspector General to oversee the NYPD and make recommendations to the Police Commissioner. Another measure will make it easier for people to sue if they feel police targeted them because of their race, sexual orientation or other factors.

Policing tactics like Stop, Question, and Frisk are being discussed on the mayoral campaign trail seemingly every day. Most of the Democrats supported the creation of an Inspector General, while all the Republicans want to see street stops continue in their current form. What do you want?

Do you agree with Mayor Bloomberg that police reforms only passed the Council because it's an election year? Which candidate running for mayor is the strongest when it comes to fighting crime? What ideas do you have to keep New Yorkers safe and respect the rights of the innocent?

Send your thoughts using the link above.



I want the stop and frisk to continue, cause it makes me feel safe to walk on the street rather than being afraid. I heard hundreds of citizens asking quietly, if those people does nothing wrong why don't they want to be checked? I feel the police do a good job when they stop, question and frisk those they suspect and it should continue.

Ruthann
Queens



John,

Whatever the motivations of the Council Members, I favor the laws and the inspector general. The reckless and arbitrary attacks on people's rights and freedom by the police have to stop.

Joe
Port Richmond, SI



As my mother slapped me around for some youthful transgression back in 1967, a policeman happens to view the incident and informed her that she could be arrested for submitting me to a physical deterrent - to which she responded 'I rather slap him around now that he is young as oppose to having him shot by you when he gets older'.

Parents are handcuffed and children are allowed to grow up without regard for authority.

Some parental oversight, local employment and some community policing will keep the crime from going up - it can't be all up to the police....

Nufsaid....
Ramon



My husband is a police officer, has been on the job for the past 6 years. Every day he leaves for work I pray for him to come back home in one piece... Like many others who are out there his main goal is to keep the streets safe and prevent the crime. In order to do his job best he needs to be alert and aware of every little detail that looks suspicious.
I cannot imagine that he would get injured or worse- did't come home one day. I do not find Stop and frisk racial. New York is a city of multiculture and there are police officers who represent them as well as ordinary people. The only difference and most important, is that they represent the law and should not be limited by some reform that has not much to do with reality but politics!!!

Regards,
Agatha



I just think that once Stop and Frisk is stopped, then crime WILL go up, and definitely in the minority neighborhoods. The mothers will ask the NYPD to protect them again. Can't tell you how many times I've seen this CYCLE.

Truly.
PX



People keep confusing Criminal Profiling and Racial Profiling. Crime statistics show that Black men between the ages of 18-25, commit 9 times more violent crime than Whites of the same age range. So when targeting Crime, race is one of the most important factors!

Cheers,
Paul in Brooklyn



Brian brought up the point that police officers will stop doing this part of their job with the new policy. Does it have to be all or nothing? Is it asking too much to ask officers to depend more on their judgement? Is there a way to do this without making those that are innocent feel victimized?

Rob



THE PROBLEM WITH STOP AND FRISK IS THAT NOT EVERYONE IS STOPPED. WE ARE ALL BORN IN SIN.

JEFF, FROM HAMILTON HEIGHTS



I am a 48 year old, clean cut white male with blue eyes and fair skin. I have been stopped and detained by police THREE times in the last year when I was either unloading groceries or simply unlocking MY OWN CAR during late-night hours near my apartment in the East Village and also on the Upper West Side. Police spotted me and detained me while checking my ID and registration to make sure I wasn't breaking into someone else's car. I had no problem with it. This is all part of "Life in the Big City" I was mugged by teen-age thugs as a kid in 1970s Park Slope. That was no fun. These Democratic Candidates are PANDERING.

Don in East Village



Sorry crime will change when jobs become available. Policing can be done including stop and frisk when police are monitored to reduce racial profiling.

Stephanie
From. Corona



First of all its either equal rights for everyone or none at all. What people seem to forget, when they mention how different ethnic groups went through the same in the past, it doesn't mean that it was any more right to do so. Where does it end, they also forget that police, yes, are human and i see that ever more clearly now. They make mistakes yes but they also perform these stop and frisks with personal prejudices and stereotypes...now thats the problem. Anybody remember the internment of Japanese born Americans during world war 2? thats what stop and frisk might evolve to.

Maybe the question should be how do we balance police brutality towards minorities, police shootings of un-armed minority youth and young men, police misco.duct as far as cops who go astray to the other side of the law...how about them apples? vote yes for cameras.

Frank



If the police do not want to do their job because they are liable if they violate someone's rights, then let them go back to Long Island ,New Jersey and whatever suburb they derive from. How dare they threaten to not do their job and we pay their salary? Get rid of em!

Whatever happened to police work? what kind of training does it take to stop everyone you see as if you were crossing a border? It is easy to throw a net out, of course you will come up with a fish or two, however you will also likely catch a lot you have to throw back. Why not use the tools that were supposedly given to them in the police academy? Could it be the type of police cadet or the leadership?

K
Harlem



People of a certain age have been raised with these beliefs - there have been decades of indoctrination & exposure that minorities are dangerous. These ideas result in what we have heard as their rationalizations to maintain stop, question and frisk.

Alfred in Corona



Mike Bloomberg and Ray Kelly are afraid. Not of rising crime rates, but with loss of power. They are afraid of having someone neutral keeping tabs on the police to make sure everyone is being treated fairly. What do they really have to hide?

Mike from Morningside



Yay for the City Council. They kicked racism, social injustice and discrimination in it's ugly face. The Mayor wants to push poor people out, specifically African Americans and Latinos who are disportionately over represented in impoverished communities that have high stop-question-frisk rates. I can't wait for de Blasio or Thompson to be voted into office.

Victor - Morrisania



I think everyone has this stop and frisk policy wrong. The police wont stop this procedure. They will always stop and frisk someone who might fit the description of someone who may gave just committed a crime. Or some kid walking around a well known drug area at 4am. They just won't be stopping people for hanging out. So the policy wont be eliminated just amended. The press should really clarify this.

Don in Astoria



Stop and frisk is wrong! Let focus on the law. Not on racial profiling. Officers have the right to stop and frisk, if there is probable cause. Stop and frisk should be executed in a systemic plan. I don't see stop and frisk in white venues. Let follow the context of law and not subject poor blacks and hispanics. To a unjust police protocol. Let be honest, they sell drugs and engage in illegal acts In white venues. Or are the poor easy targets? Enforce the law and be fair.

Anthony
New York



Both bills would have passed with the same votes even if it were not an election year. However, Quinn's decision to allow the bills to come to a vote was motivated solely because she's running for Mayor this year. If it were any other year, Quinn would have followed Bloomberg's will and blocked them from coming to the floor of the City Council.

Steven from Astoria



WHAT PROFESSOR BROWN DOESN'T GET SHE MAKES THE POINT THAT STOP & FRISK STARTED IN 1968 AND IT WAS RIGHT AFTER THAT THAT THE HOMICIDE RATE STARTED TO DROP AND DROPPED FASTER THAN EVERY OTHER LARGE CITY IN THE COUNTRY ( PER CAPITA) .

WHAT SHE ALSO DOESN'T GET IS THAT THE REASON THAT SO MANY OF HER "PEOPLE" GET STOPPED AND QUESTIONED AND THEN FRISKED IS BECAUSE PROPORTIONATELY PEOPLE OF COLOR PER CAPITA ARE 5-10 MORE LIKELY TO BE INVOLVED IN GUN CRIMES.

IF THEY HAD STOP & FRISK IN CHICAGO MAYBE IT WOULD.T BE ONE OF THE HIGHEST MURDER CITIES IN THE WORLD.

MY QUESTION IS WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE GROUPS THAT ARE THE HIGHEST PER CAPITA CAUSE OF VIOLENT CRIMES ALWAYS THE ONES TO SAY IT'S NOT FAIR OR IT'S RACIAL......WHEN THE IRISH WERE BOMBING IN GREAT BRITAIN MORE IRISH MEN WERE QUESTION AND STOPPED THAN ITALIAN PRIESTS.......WHY DO YOU THINK THAT WAS? MAYBE PROFESSOR BROWN DOESN'T WANT TO ADDRESS THE REAL ISSUE WHICH IS WHY ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR IN NYC INVOLVED IN SUCH A GREATER PROPORTION PER CAPITA IN VIOLENT CRIME THAN OTHER GROUPS?

WOULD SHE CALL IT RACIAL PROFILING IF WHITE PEOPLE COMMITTED 10 TIMES MORE CRIMES THAN BLACK PEOPLE AND WHITE PEOPLE WERE MORE OFTEN STOPPED BY COPS?

BY THE WAY THERE ARE MORE HISPANIC AND BLACK COPS DOING THE STOPPING & FRISKING THAN THERE ARE WHITE COPS DOES SHE REALLY THINK IT'S RACIAL PROFILING OR IS IT SIMPLY FACTUAL STREET SMARTS & STATISTICS?

ALLEN FROM MANHATTAN



Not every politician is "ego driven". There are some politicians that actually "listen to the people". I don't believe that these politicians voted due to their political gains. I believe they knew this was a serious issue and they took a stand. Politicians have to understand that they are in office to "Serve the People", not to "Serve Themselves and their Own Interest". Bloomberg needs to chalk this one up to a vote he couldn't "BUY".

Theresa
Upper West Side



Hi John,

The problem is that he ran the show for so many years and the puppets and cronies
accommodated him and so now he’s like a lost sole. He is trying to change so many things
in his last days but is starting to meet up with so many obstacles. Whether one agrees with decisions we also are well aware that most of the decisions are for the benefit of the ones campaigning for Public Advocate, Mayor, City Comptroller and all the other remaining positions to be filled. In a word [VOTES]

[LORD KNOWS THAT THESE POLITICIANS NEVER HAVE US IN MIND TO MAKE THIS ONE
BEAUTIFUL PLACE/COUNTRY/CITY THAT WE SO PROUDLY CALLED HOME]

That’s why this mayor is being so negative about votes not being in his favor. He had more than his shot and made a mess of things.

Thank you John,
maxxiee
mp



Only one politician has changed her tune on various issues because it is an election year and that is Christine Quinn. The other Dem candidates have been consistent in their views all along.

Frances
East Village

10.11.12.244 ClientIP: 54.227.17.173, 23.62.6.63 UserAgent: CCBot/2.0 (http://commoncrawl.org/faq/) Profile: TWCSAMLSP