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Meryl from Manhattan put it perfectly in her e-mail tonight: "The MTA's 4 "solutions" is just a PR move that creates the illusion of choice."
To put it simply, the MTA is forcing straphangers to pick their poison. No matter what decision agency officials come to, New Yorkers will have to deal with it because the MTA knows New Yorkers have few options getting around town. Like Meryl said: "There is no choice."
The MTA is considering four options that would generate an additional $232 million in revenue from subway and bus riders. Two proposals would raise the cost of a monthly unlimited MetroCard to $119 or $125, while keeping the base fare at $2.25. Those plans would also either reduce or eliminate the pay-per-ride bonus.
Two other plans would raise the base fare to $2.50, and include changes to the bonus that are yet to be determined. MTA Chairman Joe Lhota says the fare hikes are unavoidable because of "uncontrollable costs" from worker pensions. A public hearing is set for next month.
Should the cost of the current $104 monthly MetroCard go up? Would you prefer to see the unlimited or base fare increase? What would your testimony be in front of the MTA Board?
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As long as transportation is a government operation, there can be no answers to your questions.
Abolish the MTA (and the PA, for that matter) and sell each subway and bus line to the highest bidder.
Kick the robber unions out, too.
Port Richmond, SI
The MTA needs to cut the bureaucratic fat and leave fares where they are, especially with folks still hurting from the aftermath of the great recession and unemployment in the city hovering around 9%.
Felix Bay Ridge
It's ridiculous to try to hold the base fare at $2.25 -- even the PATH fare is scheduled to go higher than that. if it hasn't already. And with all due respect, it is the people paying the single fares piecemeal who involve the most time and effort in processing their fares, and should pay more.
Upper West Side
Instead of demonizing its workers over pensions, the MTA could have postponed a fare increase by controlling costs associated with capital projects like the 2nd Ave. subway and East Side Access through the re-financing of its massive $34 billion debt (according to Newsday), taking advantage of historically low interest rates, but it refused to do so. As a result, annual interest payments, according to the NY Daily News, will increase from $2.3 billion in 2012 to over $3 billion by 2015, all pegged to capital programs that are years behind scheduled and billions of dollars over budget.
PETE FROM MANHATTAN
ELIMINATE THE PAY PER RIDE BONUS? CLOSE, ELIMINATE THE FARE ALTOGETHER. COST FROM WORKERS PENSION IS AN ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE A SCAPEGOAT.
I FIND THE MTA IS NOT SERIOUS WHEN IT COMES TO DISCUSSING VARIOUS WAYS TO CUT COST WHEN THEY HAVE 7 PRESIDENTS, AND HUNDREDS OF VICE PRESIDENTS AND THEIR ASSISTANTS NUMERATING INTO THE HUNDREDS. THIS COUNTRY HAS 1 PRESIDENT AND 1 VICE PRESIDENT.
THE FAREBOX IS NOT NEEDED.
PRISONS HAVE NO FAREBOX AND DOES JUST FINE IN PROVIDING CRIMINALS WITH COLLEGE DEGREES ETC.
IF YOU LIVE IN THE 5 BOROS, YOU ARE ALSO NYS RESIDENTS, IF THE OTHER 57 COUNTIES DID THEIR PART, THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR A FARE.
JOE, BAY TERRACE
I must ask a few questions. Why is the blame always put on the workers pensions.
Tell him to keep his public hearing. Didn’t Brooklyn's new sports complex just get a new station and didn't the New York Yankees get a new metro north station that from what I remembered the only time that station is open is when a game is on other than that the metro north station is not in use.
How many times do they think they can keep doing these things to us. I've always said that anything they build and rebuild there is always a phantom donor involved and I might ad that I don't believe. Someone brought that up to Bloomberg and his answer was what do you care you are not paying for it.
So tell me when does it all stop.
Thank you John,
Id miss the bonuses but if the base fare can stay stable for a few years id be willing to compromise. The working person gets whacked again.
Jimmy from the Bronx.
The subways and buses are horrendously overcrowded, slow, dirty and dangerous, but they are the only way most of us can get around. People are hurting in this economy and need public transport to get to work, job interviews, etc. There will be more turnstile jumping and getting on buses from the back and when people just can't afford the fare who can blame them?
The MTA should make the fine for fare beating $1000. The rampant fare evasion will stop if that becomes law.
Where and when is the Government going to get involved? is everything in NYC just going to go up up up??
Who's over seeing the MTA? I say we call for a full opening of their financial records to show us how much money is made and how they are spending it.. how are other countries transit systems more advance with less invested?
Pension issues aside.. Im sure there is major wastage going on within the system.. a boycott is in order!
Erik From Bushwick
This wouldn't have happened if the MTA didn't buy the R160s. It messed everything up.
Fare evasion fines should be $1000. The temptation to evade would be a heavy price to pay.
I lived IN Forest HIlls Queens for over 9 YEARS.... I Had to put up with the WORST SERVICE all the time... I SENT MTA.... over 200 emails over the course of time.. I got in the management's FACE.. and they TOLD ME to COMPLAIN to the STAIRWELL... This COMPANY is RUN HORRIBLY.. They HAVE NO COMMUNICATION... the EMERGENCY GATES going off constantly are totally ANNOYING. MTA FIRED workers and the TRAINS are very DIRTY.
Now after moving to BAY RIDGE.. Brooklyn MTA IMPLEMENTS MAJOR SERVICE CUTS!!!!!!
I PAY for a MONTHLY card.. and I CANNOT AFFORD a Monthly CARD if they raise the FARES again. Bloomberg TOTALLY SUCKS. Whenever you have a COMPLAINT about MTA...
they tell you to complain to ALBANY???????????
There is NO competition... I cant option to TAKE a CAB... and THIS IS TOTALLY UNFAIR for A LONG TERM USER of the MTA to keep getting hit with FARE HIKES every FREAKING YEAR.
The R train is NOT HORRIBLE.. But, SERVICE HAS SLOWED for MORNING COMMUTE....
and the R TRAIN IS DIRTY....DIRTY...DIRTY... I have SENT an EMAIL to complain about the DIRTINESS of the R TRAIN... ITS DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY NEED TO CLEAN UP THEIR ACT.
Bay Ridge RIDER
For me to make my daily trip to and from work it is already nearly $10. I travel taking the subway and the PATH train daily. This is already an insane amount of money (more than gas!) When I have the money to buy an unlimited ride card, of course I will. I would agree that the base rate should go up, especially for new card purchasers who are mostly tourists. Have you seen the metro cards littering the streets, subway, and trains? A card itself should cost a base rate Perhaps this would give people incentive to reuse their cards and cut costs for the passes that are now littering the city.
Are people really that clueless? The fare is going to pay for all the pensions/benefits of all of the unionized workers who for many years have held the City hostage. and where do people think the money comes from to buy new cars? No One ever wants to pay more for a ride, but yet they want perfect service, new cars and employees who pay next to nothing for their health care.
Joan - Forest Hills
I feel that they are going up every year now! I feel the monthly is too high we barely live now! I feel the pan handlers will feel it the most!how ever you look at it you just can't win!
Americans talk too much. They will still pay the increase.
They need to take action to get their point across.
The MTA has got to be kidding me! Maybe if the bus drivers or token booth clerks enforced people paying their fare (or ENTIRE fare), maybe this would not be a problem. They better not do anything. Take away their perks of a free ride. It's bad enough Ozone Park does not get good train and bus service anyway.
Amy, Ozone Park
How would you feel being a blue collar MTA worker and your fellow Americans not having your back. Leave the pensions out of this.
Way the MTA don't consider selligng advertisements on the monitor of metrocards sellin machines wile they sit there idle waiting to be used,this will increase revenues,the same way they are doing to the new metro card,maybe the fare dont have to increase much.
RAISE AD RATES HAVE CORPORATIONS PAY FOR AD SPACE AND COMMERCIAL RETAIL GET APPLE AMAZON NY YANKEES MADISON SQUARE GARDEN TO OPEN KIOSKE ..DENNIS NYC
The MTA needs to prove that it has done everything in its power to cut costs and make their own organization most efficient before asking the New Yorkers who already pay their way to spend more of their hard-earned money. We see few changes and improvement to service but fares go up and up. Didn't they just have a huge surplus a few years ago? What happened to that. Why can't they do a better job anticipating costs? We are not their bailout system. Fare evasion is not as rampant as they would like to say.
Most cities shut down their transit for a few hours each night. The MTA has already removed workers which though mostly useless and hostile, jeopardizes the safety of women.
Shut it down from 2-5am.
Jessica, Kew Gardens
I blame the MTA because it bad money management. I feel that's its easy for folks dwelling only in Manhattan to state that they are satisfied with the service;wait time, cleanliness etc. Those like myself who live in Queens deal with long waits and uncleanliness where BUMPS and PANHANDLERS are taking over the train making it unpleasant. Yet we have fair increase with no improvements.
Levon from Jamaica Queens
To start, eliminate pensions for new employees and cut MTA management/admin staff by 20%.
Will, upper west side
I ride the r the q and b and d daily and I cannot tell you how many times I have Sat on a train that is being held due to train traffic. Also in Brooklyn why stop off peek sometimes I have waited up to a half hour with no notification of when and why there is no train. Also the tracks by me in south slope are filthy
If the fare is raised to $2.50 per ride, that's five dollars on access-a-ride. that is for a round trip. As persons with disabilities, This system falls under the transit authority. , we don't get a break on these rides. Yes, we may get it on the trains & buses, but if we need to use para transit, there is no break.
People who live on a fixed income, this is a big chunk out of their monthly budget; and they will have to choose between their recreation medical or even food just to make it from one month to the next. These are the people who will loose the most. I agree that some of the top level persons should take a cut in pay and that might help keep fares down.
Zerline & Margo
New York citizens built and own the transit system. They should ride for free.
Michael in Greenpoint
Imagine arriving to America through Penn Station. To find your way to the subway via nonsensical signage in foul conditions in temperature, lighting, sanitation, courtesy service, actively solving the frantic disorganized announcing systems, substandard restrooms, apathetic and inconsiderate service, inaudible announcing systems inside or on platforms. If you're lucky so far, you may or may not have found the proper stair well to lift your bag up for lack of escalators or sanitary elevators. People are living in the porta potties that welcome people to our country. Even the (sometimes) active escalators at Penn Station are in reverse order of traffic patterns used in this country. The escaltors are reversed. There's no sign telling where you are and you walk up into an unlit damp ally with strangers smoking and hanging out to either side and no sign to tell you which way to go. WELCOME TO AMERICA AND IT"S GREATEST CITY!!! Great example. The big waste of money by the MTA is that the current METRO cards keep a part of the cost of the ticket does not align with the actual on the card. Thus money is ALWAYS LEFT AND LOST on the cards and thrown away onto the platform for lack of instructions as to how to dispose of this card with money still left on it. Who takes these cards and who receives the money remaining on the cards. Is this money the MTA is throwing away? Is there a reason for it? Oh, and most of the emergency doors dont work unless you lift weights and randomly operable. The rats are another concern. I had to scare a black one the size of a squirull away using my umbrella. I saw a man have his bag stolen among other disorderly conduct and courtesy due to a foul environment invites foul behavior and wasteful experience and efficiency.
I also have emailed in due to dangerous driving of the L train under the river. The driving is so wreckless on the most disfunction and with most turbulence faster and swaying the cars to the point of feeling unbalanced all the while under the river. The hardest place to perform rescue operations.
It's a sad situation.
Oh, and lets charge the masses during a mass financial crisis more to come into the city?
Someone here is not thinking.
Safety is at risk.
Why aren't they just raising fare by $1? A $1 increase would generate millions more in revenue. This level of increase is absurd!!!
Linda in Park Slope
Regarding the proposed MTA fare increases, let's get the retired NYPD personnel to start paying a fare. Possibly the other uniformed retirees have the same deal as well, it's time to change this benefit. Some of these retirees are now working in other positions like security work. It's time to end this fringe benefit and have these people pay as well.
Also, let's end the overtime pay towards retirement credit for MTA employees.
Im sure lots of improvements can be made within the MTA but I think it's worth re-iterating how big a funding cut the MTA got from state taxes.
The fare hike is to recent. It seems like each fare hike is sooner each time and yet they don't make any station improvements. MTA CEO's should take cuts out of their salaries not middle class.
Why are people talking about the buses. How you have to wait for a bus a long time for a bus sometime you one hour for a bus on the weekend or three buses come at same time what kind of services Is this but there want to rise the fare
I WANT TO CALL/HEAD A MEETING GIVING THE RIDERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS THEIR ANGST WITH THIS SYSTEM. THE MTA IS NOT BEING INVESTIGATED FOR LACK OF EFFICIENCY IN THE AUDIT OR CONTRACT ACCOUNTING. THERE IS NO REASON TO RAISE THE FARE. MTA NEEDS TO RAISE THE CALIBER OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE GETTING PAID AND SITTING AROUND TELLING RIDERS STORIES TO THEIR GROUPS.
NO FARE INCREASE. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHAT EVER THE MTA DOES WILL BE WIPED OUT DUE TO THE SECOND AVENUE CONSTRUCTION, THAT HAS BEEN WITH THE RESIDENTS FOREVER. THE MTA NEEDS TO GIVE SOME SERIOUS CONSIDERATION TO PUTTING THE SECOND AVENUE SUBWAY ON THE FAST TRACK.
THE CUSTOMERS/RIDERS MUST BE IN ON THE DECISION MAKING AT THE MTA. WHAT IS NOW HAPPENING IS AN EFFORT TO CONFUSE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE AT THE PIVOTAL TOP. THE MTA SHOULD ROLL BACK FARES TO 2007. THERE SHOULD BE NO SALARY INCREASES AT ALL, BASED ON THE ACTIVITY AND THE LACK THEREOF, IS HOPING TO KEEP THE INCREASES GOING TO MAKE SURE THIS INCREASES DOES NOT HURT MANAGEMENT.
A REAL DUE DILIGENCE EFFORT HAS TO BE MADE, TO AUDIT THE BOOKS OF THE MTA. THE LOSSES THAT THE MTA CLAIMS ARE THE COSTS FOR A SYSTEM THAT IS LOSING AND THE PEOPLE OR RESIDENT ARE ALSO GIVEN NO ATTENTION, WITH A ISSUANCE OF THE MTA MISSION.
I AM DISABLED, SO OF COURSE, THERE ARE SPECIAL ITEMS THAT ARE OVERLOOKED, FOR THE SAKE OF MTA. CASE IN POINT, THE SENIORS ARE NOT GETTING THE TRANSFER TO ANOTHER FORM OF TRANSPORTATION AS WE HAVE BEEN OVER THE YEARS. BUS M2 WILL NOT ACKNOWLEDGE ANY TRANSFER, FROM BUS TO BUS, OR BUS TO TRAIN. THE OPERATORS AT THE MTA, NEED TO BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THEIR TRAVEL ROUTES. I HAVE BEEN ON MANY A BUS THIS YEAR, AND THE DRIVERS DO NOT APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT ONE DAY, THEY TOO, WILL BE CONSIDERED A SENIOR.
Instead of charging the riders more why can't the charge more for all the payed advertisements that run on all the buses and trains through out the City.
I think it is ridiculous to even have them consider raising the base fare at all.
I've been riding the Subways since 79' . sure the a/c is better the lights dont go out altho I saw them flicker the other day but what is totally unacceptable and what has been going on for 3 decades is that at rush hour one has to wait for 1 to 2 trains to go by before you can get on and little old ladies are being pushed .. totally unacceptale. Today I tried to get on the 6 uptown at lexington and had to wait for 2 trains it was as crowded as the trains in CHINA !!! I literally had to leave and go upstairs where it was raining and start walking 14 blocks to my destination .. then hopped on a bus . the trains were as crowded as the trains IN CHINA where they push and squeeze you in like sardines ..NO ONE should have to be subjected to touching another person on the subway .. it is a violation and what MTA needs to do if they ever consider hiking up fare is to make the ride more quality .. add 10 cars to each peak subway train .. This is just unbelievable that for all these decades that has not changed . you reallly should reduce the fare for not giving us a ride that is not torture and violating during rush and peak hours . its PATHETIC!!!
and when this passes inspection then you can raise the unlimited .. the disabled and seniors should get more of a break . absolutely ridiculous to think that we as taxpayers should have to pay anything when the cars are so congested .. Get your money from somewhere else.. and no more pensions ..
Thanks for hearing me out ..
Well, I will be buying a bike now. So there goes my $1,000+ a year. Sorry, guys.
If they eliminated fares all together it would cut out the need for fare collecting jobs and that money could be spent on maintenance and keeping riders safe. Having a free subway would encourage commerce in a city like New York there is no reason why the subway is not a publicly provided service – what would anyone do without it? MAKE THE SUBWAY FREE.
- Margaret, The Lower East Side
I disagree on both cases. Why? Because I think MTA should be more organized with the money that they receive and not spending in things that shouldn't spend. Like for example, keeping workers that do not do their job. People that don't even know how to solve a problem when should be something simple as replacing a metrocard when is not working instead just handling an envelope and telling the customers to mail their cards because is not working properly. Which just happens a lot in the stations by 155th street on the C line.
Customers like me rather to use the machines instead dealing with the clerks at the train stations? Whom pretending to be polite, instead explain that they can not solve the issues that their stations have, just cut the talk and send you home or to the machines saying. Have a great day/night. How about cutting tooooo many workers at night time that instead doing the work, are just hanging at the train stations while should be working. I guess not super visions are present so they do what ever they want and still being paid for overtime work.
Too long message? Well is based on facts and I could even have videos of the workers sitting for long periods of time without doing the work. Why should be us paying a rise on prices for a metrocard again? I COMPLETE DISAGREE.
Alberto from Hamilton Heights.