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When is a drop in your score an improvement? When you play golf, and work for the Bloomberg administration. That's about it.
In 2012, six out of ten students in New York City public schools graduated high school in four years. State officials say last year's graduation rate was 60.4%, down from 60.9% for the class of 2011. The City's graduation rate lags behind the statewide average of 74%, but it's still 15 percentage points higher than it was in 2005.
The statistics released today from the State Education Department are the first since students were required to meet stricter graduation requirements. Across New York State, officials say the graduation rate for white students is nearly 28 percentage points higher than the rates for black and Hispanic students. The college and career readiness gap is even greater.
Today, Schools Chancellor Dennis Walcott said, "We continue to raise the bar and our students continue to rise to the challenge." What do you say?
Are you encouraged or discouraged by the recent graduation rates? Do they point to successes or failures at the Department of Education? How did "raising the bar" affect your child or the children in your classroom? What can be done to raise the success rate of students of color, English Language Learners, and students with disabilities?
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To raise the success rate of students of color, English Language Learners, and students with disabilities - we first - with the first 2 groups - have to educate the parents - they can't work with their child at home if they themselves don't understand what needs to be done. Students with disabilities have to receive instruction on their ability level. They need to rise to their highest ability. Stressing them out to pass a test, is not the way to do it. Differentiated instruction, on their ability level, not their grade level. If a student with disabilities functions 2 yrs behind their grade level, why are they responsible to pass the State exam on their grade level? Better to test them on their ability level. Boost their confidence and they will rise to your challenges.
Jessica, Arden Heights
I say that schools should be released from the destructive effects of government and the unions. All schools should be privatized and the school unions told to take a walk.
Port Richmond, SI
Can you do a show on the new evaluation system? Teachers are retiring in droves because of it. Bloomberg got what he wanted. The union lost big time but won't admit it.
Chris from Park Slope
Whatever this mayor takes control of ends up being a disaster. If confronted he resorts to mean spirited remarks. Doesn’t he realize that the remark being made towards the teachers union [THE KISS OF DEATH] is in now way proper to speak words of that nature where children are concerned. To me that remark is way out of line. He has a tendency to be so sarcastic and sadistic at the same time and seems to direct it always towards the wrong people.
Thank you John,
The Graduation rate should be higher the reason why its not is because parents dont sit down with their kids and help them study make sure the kids do their homework that's why the kids get left back all kids should have a computer that's essential for school work
upper west side
In Sir Thomas Moore's Utopia, the drop-out rates will drop to zero but in the real world, drop outs are a fact of life. I'm sure that such rates have remained about the same in the last one hundred years. Politicians, however, use this scapegoat propaganda to achieve their goals, namely, the complete dismantling of the unions. With a weakened union, unchecked micromanagement of teachers and other professionals, along with "big brother" harassing policies, schools look like militarized units where dedicated professionals cannot aspire to hold on to their position for too long...I suspect, they are doomed by the time they reach the time to be vested (ten years) let alone retirement.
AT A 60% GRADUATION I WILL FEEL SO AT EASE WHEN MY FUTURE DOCTOR OR LAWYER IS ONLY 60% CAPABLE. THIS IS TRAGIC.
Since when is 60% a passing grade, and since when are teachers evil? This mayor has failed miserably.
Mayor Bloomberg has gutted the education system from the inside out and has left it to die. Teachers are leaving in droves, especially older, experienced teachers- which is what he wanted. The next mayor is going to have to rebuild the system from the ground up.
Chris from Park Slope
Our educational system has systemic problems. And administrative flaws. the nation is failing and our economy will suffer. Today students will not be able to compete in the world economy. The bloomberg legacy will have positive rewards in the nation and city. We can't play politics, with the future of education. I hope the next mayor will stay on task with the mayor protocol. Test and prep will increase literacy skills and writing skills. Would you hire a individual who hasn't achieve the basic writing and reading skills.
New York City.
The real unaddressed problem? Disruptive students! There is no order in the classroom and no discipline at home. The new standards are still too low. Shame!
The graduation rate is no surprise to me. I graduated high school 7 years ago and my brothers are now students there. It amazes me that the teachers are still using the same syllabus and same course work! How about teachers revamp their courses and challenge the students instead of watching movies or reading of mice and men.
-Larry from Washington Heights
Mayor Bloomberg and his Chancellors used that other 40% of struggling students as collateral damage in order to close schools and "unemploy" union teachers, rather than provide the help those students needed. That is Bloomberg's "education legacy."
Bloomberg as the education mayor alienated teachers and betrayed the students of our city! Passing a test does not prepare our young people for the workforce or for college!
Our kids worked themselves to the bone this year... My 9 year old had physical stress all year. We had our 4th graders doing 6th grade math all of a sudden. Why is it a surprise that the graduation rate is down?
These rates are a fraud. This mayor has gotten rid of under performing kids and doesn't count them in the rates. He also counts kids who graduate with the minimum standards of a general diploma. The rate is more like 30 per cent who can do college work and get a job. This mayor is a failure.
The only thing that has truly increased in the NY City Department of Education is the number of private contractors who are paid what salaries teachers used to do.
Teachers are the only profession that is told what to do by people who are not teachers.
The ramifications of the climate of fear created by this administration will take years to recognize and even more years to rectify.
There was a possibility that graduation rates could increase before Mayor Bloomberg had the incredible idea of putting more than one school together on the same location/ building. That action is one of the mayor factors that produces less concentration, loss of interest and more teen violence in school,
Yessica from Harlem
Overall higher standards are excellent. The teachers standards must be raised Also. So students can be sure of getting a higher standard of education. The mayor did a good job of stopping the school system from being a dumping ground of incompetent unfit teachers. The old board of Ed was a mess.
Raising standards for students to graduate is a positive thing, however I have seen many of my classmates who can do well slack off due to the lack of engagement in the classrooms. Kid's don't want to do work unless they are interested in passing and excelling in the class, on the regents and on SAT's.
Devin, Queens New York
If Bloomberg got 60% on the Regents he wouldn't be able to graduate
Kew Gardens, NY
Still waiting for the statistic showing us what percentage of the 40 is the result of poor parenting.
Let's face it. It's Bloomberg's world and we're just living in it. He's using parents, teachers, and students as pawns in some game of his. His methods are a waste of time, resources, and money. Where is it all going?
Mike from Morningside
This graduation rate is in reality inflated by the pressure on teachers to give passing grades to students who do little or no work, and come to school sporadically at best. When will parents and students be held accountable for their responsibility in the educational process?
What is to become of the 35% of students who do not and will never graduate from a New York City high school? This statistic keeps me up at night.
all the best,
THIS YEARS SENIORS REPRESENT 12 YEARS OF MAYORAL CONTROL I LIKE KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE GRADUATING SENIORS ARE READY FOR COLLEGE
The graduation rate is down? How can you get to higher standards when the DOE has closed scores of schools over the last 10 years? Our non-graduates have been let down!
With 64/65 % graduation rate this is totally unacceptable. In Steuben county, which is a very poor rural area in NY State we have a 9o/95% graduation rate. Why such a difference? Kids are KIds lets see why it works in this poor county with many to all of the same problems and replicate this success in NYC, my home town.
While Mayor Bloomberg flaunts his graduation rates like a CEO flaunts figures to his shareholders, suicides rates among youth continue to remain at unacceptable rates. 1 youth who commits suicide is far too much. More than 1 kills him or herself each year. While running our schools like a Bloomberg business sounds good on paper, the reality is it doesn't work. We must stop neglecting our youth and give them more supportive environments where their value isn't evaluated with a test grade, and we are thrown into a competition of graduating rates. The present direction of educating our youth in NYC is a disgrace.
We need education reform in the home and school system. We are failing as a nation and city. Today teachers are social workers and parents. They are paid to teach . Not to teach. Socialization. these. Skills should be done by parents nations that excel are nations that have family values ..and respect for education and teachers.
The reason why the graduation rates are so low is become teachers and parents are not working together. They are too busy pointing the finger at each other. For students to do better parents and teachers have to meet each other half way.
A teacher's perspective
Imagine that for 12 years the most powerful person in the city tells you that you are
the root of all problems known to children and then he continuously publicly attacks you on a daily basis. Now ask yourself, would you want to entrust your child to that persons care for 7 hours a day? Perhaps, the next educational initiative should measure the consequences of this Mayor's persistent demonization of teachers and the UFT on student performance.
A Student's Perspective:
A student enters the school system at the age of 5 until the age of 18. They are trained to perform on the test. Because the public has told the teacher to get students to pass to prove their effective so they wont lose their job that they went to 6 years of school to get. Graduation rates indicate that 40% of students can't make it.
How do you think they feel being told they are not good enough in school for 12 straight years?
Really, understand that the public is consenting to the idea that student performance will be tied to teacher effectiveness. -
You want parents to help their kids more?....how?...have you not seen the socioeconomic downsides of our system. Parents working 2 jobs just to keep their kids alive are having a hard time finding the time out of a 24 hour day to help their kids like they want to. This isnt the 60's anymore when parents had jobs that didnt demand so much of them. Now you havr to work twice as hard just to barely get by.
Rahkeem from queens
NYC students needs to see educators who look like them and can identify with their inner-city needs.
One caller said it best-
A major part of the issue is classroom culture.
Inner city minorities need more male more black men and Latino men in the classroom.
The new Mayor needs to engage the teachers and parent in curriculum development.
I also agree with a prior caller that students are being taught to the test and are in culture shock when they get to college. Students are shocked that they have to attend class, do their class work or participate in class once they get beyond high school.